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    BrianX
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    Im running Ubuntu Server 16.04.3 LTS. I installed TrueRNG v3, RNG-Tools, and followed the install guide. Ubuntu uses getrandom(2) and it defaults to /dev/urandom but TrueRNG populates /dev/random.

    How can I pass the GRND_RANDOM bit so I can utilize the TrueRNG v3? If I don’t change this then I won’t be using the TrueRNG v3 but I will be using PRNG of /dev/urandom instead.

    http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man2/getrandom.2.html

    GRND_RANDOM
    If this bit is set, then random bytes are drawn from the
    /dev/random pool instead of the /dev/urandom pool. The
    /dev/random pool is limited based on the entropy that can be
    obtained from environmental noise. If the number of available
    bytes in /dev/random is less than requested in buflen, the call
    returns just the available random bytes. If no random bytes are
    available, the behavior depends on the presence of GRND_NONBLOCK
    in the flags argument.

    #2121

    BrianX
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    My goal is to call random_int(1,100000) from PHP which in turn calls getrandom(2) from Ubuntu which is using /dev/urandom as discussed until I make the change to Ubuntu.

    #2122

    BrianX
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    By default, getrandom() draws entropy from the urandom source (i.e.,
    the same source as the /dev/urandom device). This behavior can be
    changed via the flags argument.

    http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/getrandom.2.html

    #2124

    dgv
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    Hello,

    The system call getrandom(2) is invoked within the implementation of php’s “random_int”.

    Solution 1: if you have the source code of your PHP package
    find the getrandom(2) call in the PHP source code, replace the 3rd argument (which should be “0″) by
    GRND_RANDOM. Recompile and reinstall.

    Solution 2: read directly the TrueRNG device
    You may write your own function “truerng_int” which reads the device.
    Ask your favorite search engine for keywords “php call c function” or “php call c lib”;
    you should find documentation on how to do this.
    Look at the posting “Library and pgm” in this forum for a library offering C/C++ interfaces.

    Solution 3: do nothing :)
    As a matter of fact, there is one single random pool in the kernel. The devices /dev/random and /dev/urandom
    differ on their behavior for accessing this pool. With your device plugged-in, the pool should
    be nearly filled most of the time, so using /dev/urandom is not a problem. See the man page urandom(4).

    cheers,

    Denis/

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